Thursday, July 16, 2009

Reform Women Arrested For Provocation At Kotel


Reform Women Arrested For Provocation At Kotel

B"H

Oh goodness. Communicate are a lot of issues here to agreement with, and none of them are as the Jerusalem Chore presents them.

Let's start with the headline:


"Organism arrested, gratis for praying in talit at Western Embankment."

She was not arrested for praying in talit. She was arrested for ultimatum taking into consideration, restricted by at least 40 other women, she began a Torah service (with, I'm absolute, the accompanying before a live audience and dancing). She began to unroll a Torah, and was attempting to begin reading (before a live audience) from that Torah.

This was a catch ultimatum, and it was noticeably pre-meditated, as the man states: "We debated surrounded by ourselves whether or not to read from the Torah at the Kotel itself or to confiscate the Torah to the Robinson's Arc."

The women knew what they were ham it up, and they did it with set sights on for the declare dot of making a scene.

If the man was, as the JPOST contends in their course, arrested for praying in talit-she would sustain been arrested and removed from the wall taking into consideration she donned the talit. They wouldn't sustain waited for her to unroll a Torah Scroll.

I'm absolute that the standardize and the Kotel Rabbi were adherence the women, who were conceivably impressive with their intention, demo up to the wall and begin their Torah service. They were patient, waiting to see what the women would do. So the Torah service started, with the before a live audience and dancing that as a matter of course accompanies such an action, they were skirt, by lay AND pastoral law to decrease the service.

I'm absolute the women were wispy to be arrested. This was their set sights on. They wished to make headlines, and they did.

If they had not been arrested, what would sustain been the outcome? Exclusive women would sustain come to the Kotel to "pray" glaringly with their Torahs and, nevertheless this is a elegant, spiritual thing for many of them, they would be violating the custody of men who are as well at the Kotel to pray and who cannot pray nevertheless listening to women sing. They as well cannot listen to a man lead services.

In attempting to deliver their "custody" to pray at the Kotel, they would be denying the custody of men to pray portray. This is an extremely jealous thing to do taking into consideration portray is an vicinity set aside for this type of words in order to protect the custody of all the upper classes wishing to pray at the Kotel.

In stock to the fact that their prayers repress the custody of men to pray, we poverty as well confiscate now pondering that, nevertheless men are Cover by halacha to pray, women are not Cover to pray. Women MAY pray, if they wish, but they are not Hop. Men are Hop to pray. For that reason, these women would sustain exactly despoiled the pastoral custody of men who are fulfilling their requirement nevertheless insisting upon the put right to do no matter which which, by Jewish law, is not programmed for women.

It is in this context, that I would dream to bring up the fan point: Reformation is having a appalling time defense men pastoral. Yes. They sustain admitted it themselves. So one enters a Reformation Peak, they beyond words remains of community praying are WOMEN, not men. In fact, the Reformation sustain started new "men's services" in order to fuel men and boys to pray.

This is a fast common sense of favoring the ostensible "custody" of women surplus the pastoral Be required to of men.

These women must be difficult of themselves!

And, my rejoin to this women's evaluation, "I am not a devotee work it. I come to pray and perform what is in print in the Torah voice to the Israelites and give away them to make tzitzit on the corners of their display", rumored Frenkel referring the biblical verse that teaches the directive to wear a talit" would be this:

If you are so bright in fan the mitzvot, why aren't you brim religious? Are you Kosher? Do you shoulder Shabbat?

I am gaming she chooses her mitzvot dream they are no matter which set out on a indulgence table-savoring one nevertheless ignoring diverse.

This is not fan G-d's Rumor, this is fan the jealous ways of the populace and attempting to practice G-d now your own image.

--M


Nov 18, 2009 10:18 Efficient Nov 18, 2009 12:39

Organism arrested, gratis for praying in talit at Western Embankment

By MATTHEW WAGNER


http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1258489193200">Police and Western Embankment officials evicted a female prayer group from the Kotel vicinity and arrested one of the women some time ago they attempted Wednesday genesis to read from a Torah scroll.

"We debated surrounded by ourselves whether or not to read from the Torah at the Kotel itself or to confiscate the Torah to the Robinson's Arc," rumored Nofrat Frenkel, who was arrested and far along gratis by standardize.

"In the end we contracted that in view of the fact that secret message seemed to sympathy we would go formerly and read the Torah at the Kotel."

According to a bargain reached two decades ago under Maximum Hearing mediation, it was agree that women who wished to wear talitot [prayer shawls] and kippot and read from the Torah would be bureaucrat to do so at the Robinson's Arc close to the Kotel and not faithfully in advance guard of the Kotel so as not to offend Customary set.

On every Rosh Hodesh (beginning of the Jewish month) the Women of the Embankment lease prayers at the Kotel and at the Robinson's Arc. On Wednesday's check portray was a conditional of women from North America who are in Israel to confiscate part in a rabbinical ordination ceremony to confiscate place at the Reformation Movement's Hebrew Instruction Friendship.

Frenkel rumored that as the women unrolled the Torah scroll and began to collect to read, officials from the Kotel Universe taking part in and demanded that they chuck the premises.

Frenkel rumored that the women agree to roll up the Torah scroll and confiscate it to the Robinson's Arc. But on their way out Frenkel, who was tedious a talit and was transportation the Torah, was in custody by standardize.

"I was pushed now a in front of standardize station and transferred to the central standardize station at Yaffo Lip."

Right to be heard 40 women who attended the prayer formed a guide and followed the standardize and Frenkel stopping at the Old Town to the Yaffo Lip anyplace they congregated and sang songs until Frenkel was gratis.

Rabbi Felicia Sol of the post-denominational Bnei Jeshrun Synagogue on Manhattan's Disdainful West Diverge, rumored that the method to read from the Torah was an experiment with "pushing the boundaries".

"It is silly that in a Jewish check in that is so it is said democratic women cannot pray the way they point out to and only one definition of Judaism is birth," rumored Sol.

"It is sad that many lay Israelis are distanced from Judaism in view of the fact that in Israel religion is seen as a disparaging, divisive drop quite of principal intoxicating and open."

Anat Hoffman, Be in charge of the Women of the Embankment, rumored that the two-decade-old bargain that prevents women from reading from the Torah at the Kotel was redundant.

"Period sustain another and women must be bureaucrat to sustain a excellent fundamental place in Jewish words," rumored Hoffman.

Kotel Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitz rumored in feedback that the women's happenings were "a desecration of the sacred."

"They brought campaign and viciousness to a place that is perceived to embody unity," rumored Rabinovitz. "And that is a desecration. They behaved dream [biblical] Korah and his legislature."

Rabinovitz extra that the women were motivated by a devotee schedule and did not point out to totally pray.

Still, Frenkel, who belongs to a Conformist swarm in Israel, rumored that her limited set sights on was to pray to God.

"We were not challenging to cause a ultimatum," rumored Frenkel.

"I am not a devotee work it. I come to pray and perform what is in print in the Torah voice to the Israelites and give away them to make tzitzit on the corners of their display", rumored Frenkel referring the biblical verse that teaches the directive to wear a talit.

Jerusalem Standardize rumored that they arrested a man from some time ago she donned a talit, nevertheless praying at the Western Embankment.

According to a standardize spokesman, the man was approached by officers some time ago putting the prayer screen on, which standardize rumored caused an din from other flock.

"Standardize reassured the employment down, and took the man in for penetrating," a note from the spokesman rumored.

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